This blog is part IV of a series. See part I here.
Armed with core hypothesis in your opportunity space - the known unknowns - every founder needs to learn from customers, and learn quickly. But quick shouldn’t sacrifice depth. We need to dig deep with customers to understand their true behavior and motivations, and get to 2nd order insights.
Now it’s time to talk with customers. Go where they are! I mean that both physically (e.g. if your customer is a sales rep, go to a sales conference. If your customer is a pet parent, go to dog parks) and virtually. My favorite virtual, scrappy places to start understanding my customers better and sourcing people to have 1-on-1 conversations with are LinkedIn, Facebook groups, and Reddit forums.
While ultimately you’ll want to narrow down to a focused ICP, right now the key is going broad and talking to many types of people in the broader customer bucket. Benefits of starting broad are:
You may be armed with the outline of the must-be-true statements that need customer validation, but keep in mind that people struggle to articulate their needs accurately. If tech companies had asked users what they needed, they might have said bigger hard drives. But what they truly needed was a way to access their files anywhere, anytime, without worrying about physical storage limitations - and now we have cloud storage. This illustrates that people often don't fully grasp what they need and are constrained by what they currently know. The key is digging deeper to understand the underlying behaviors and motivations.
If you talk to an SDR, they may share that they can’t make enough cold calls in a day and that dialing takes too long. They want to make more calls. Solution - build a robo dialer for them that can dial many prospects at once, giving the SDR what they “want” (more calls) and better odds for a connect (this exists!). But if we ask an SDR what they’re held accountable for, they’d tell you it’s building pipeline. The number of calls they make is just a method for getting enough prospects on the phone to convert some to a lead. If they could make no calls and still generate pipeline, they would be even happier!
Start by asking your customer what their priorities are for the year. And then keep asking why until you both know what specific metrics they’re focused on and why they think that matters to them and the company. Once you understand what they care about, what is the specific goal? How much improvement would a new solution need to have to that metric to be meaningful (e.g. better enough)?
While we’re having the many conversations with founders, customers, and experts in a domain, we share and listen to insights. Oftentimes, we all have the exact same insight about a customer. This makes us pause. Do we know anything that others don’t?
At MVL, we continuously push ourselves and founders to get to second order insights - the insights below the surface that ladder up to the insight we all know. Getting to these second order insights is how you build a company that can disrupt and win.
Magnify learned a second order insight that drove their product vision. Churn is a growing problem for B2B SaaS companies. The current solution is building out customer success teams to monitor and reduce churn. This is expensive and not scalable.
Through customer discovery, it was clear that organizations don’t have visibility into the customer 360. At first glance, organizations need visibility into indicators of churn, who might churn, and how to stop them from churning. This insight was true across many customer interviews and had the team stopped there, Magnify would have built an analytics solution that surfaced these insights.
But the team kept digging to understand why organizations don’t build this in-house today and what a solution to the problem would allow them to do. Customer success or AEs then had to do something with these insights - they had to manually perform actions to stop the churn. And, typically once they had these reactive data points, it was too late to save the accounts.
Those second order insights led to Magnify as we know it today, a way to proactively manage the customer lifecycle with AI-driven automated workflows.
We’ve talked about what to do. Watch for these “gotchas” as you go.
The basics of opportunity validation are straightforward but continuing to push ourselves to dig deeper and uncover 2nd order insights is where the challenge and fun begins! Doing so will set you up to move faster and build compelling products.
As we build conviction around an opportunity space, we want to start developing more conviction in a solution. While we may have used initial concepts with customers for them to react to something, we also want to approach solution validation in a more rigorous way. This deserves its own deep dive, so stay tuned for Part 3 - Solution Ideation & Validation.
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